Typical second or third contact
Typical "contact" messages list
First contact 2nd and/or 3 ed Money sent Hauler contact Warnings Odd-balls and misc. Aftermath Current and recent hay scam messages
As you read through these, note the strange "From", like lobster investment <grin> Buying Hay?
Also take note of certain word patterns and word usage that just don't come up in normal messages. By the bottom of the page they will be pretty evident. I don't want to point them out and give the scammers clues.
Scammers will normally ask for your name, address, phone number, etc. in the second or third message. One tool you can use is to ask the scammer for a "Deposit" to hold the hay, of about $50 via Paypal , before you will send them your contact information. This really screws them up!
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From: Teresa Ervc
< :laxix007@gmail.com >
Subject: Re: Want to buy your Hay
Hello,
Thanks for the response.
I am so happy i will be able to get the hay from you, so the estimated total for the bales
i will be buying is $700 i will
also want you to provide me with the information i need for my shipper to come pick up the
hay:
Name
Address
Phone #
I will make arrangement for payments as soon as you provide me with the information to
send the Money.
Thanks and i await your response.
Teresa eryc
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From: JIM
BRUCE
Subject: THANKS
Hello Mike,
Thank you for your mail, regarding the horse hay, i will like to brign this to your notice that i leave in germany, im really intersted in buying the horse hay because i have two horses in my compound i am love of pet, i will need
grass hay , kindly get back to me with some photo of this hay, if you can have it sent to me via email, and i will need upto 500 bales i will like to know the last price you will sell it for me,There will be no problem in transporting the hays to my residential home here in germany, i urge you not to sale it to any body, condidering i'll handling shipping arrangement and all, Also let me know if a cashier's check or money order, will be accepted by you in regards of payment, so that we can proceed, i wait your urgent response, ThanksRegards
Jim.
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From: garyritz007@aol.com
Subject: Re: Hay
Hello - Thank you for writing me back, I just checked my computer and got your e-mail. I
am glad you've still got hay. I want to buy it on tuesday, How many bales or Rolls can i
get for $2000? I will come to pick it up myself so will not require you deliver it to my
farm, I have a Truck and i can drive down, Do i need to coe to your farm with
helpers to load, or you will do the loading? I can get ropes to tye down the hay.
Let me know what i can get for $2000. I await a quick reply. Thanks - Gary Ritz,
Sansi Farm
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From: Bernard Buxton < beebee506@hotmail.com >
Subject: RE: Hay available
Dear Andrew,
Thanks for your email. I am very interested in getting your Alfalfa and very urgently too.
I will like to buy 290 bales for a start as I would like to buy all your hay if I find it
good enough.I am located at white plains,Ny but would be leaving town today. I just a got
a client from the British royal family interested in purchasing a horse so I will need the
best quality of hay possible that will make my horse look well nourished. I will be
leaving for Great Britain today to meet with the client for negotiations, but I have made
adequate arrangements for your payment as well as the loading and delivery so you have
nothing to worry about. Get back to me with your mailing address so I can instruct a
client of mine to send you a check as soon as possible.
Regards,
Bernard.
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From: " raymon kelly" < raykelly001@yahoo.com
>
> Subject: Re: HAY WANTED
Thanks for your responds, basically I am interested in purchasing all kinds of hay because
we just got more Cattle's and Horses at our new farm so I think I will go for what ever
that's available now and see how the animals go with it. So I will like to purchase hay
worth $1000, and since my farm is located in the states, I can make arrangements for
loading and hauling. Let me how payment can be made and I will like you to write
back ASAP.
Thanks and await your respond.
Regards
From: "raymon kelly" <raykelly001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: HAY WANTED
> Thanks for your responds. I am located in Arkansas...I will be making payment
via Certified Check and I would like you to provide your Name and Address to where the
Check will be addressed.
Thanks and await your respond.
> Regards.
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From: < noblefarms@netzero.net
>
Subject: Re: Hay Supplier Needed
Thanks very much for your responds, Before getting your email, they made me understand
that since It was a new person that would be supplying the hay, they would first like to
start with a minimum quantity and see how much their animals will like it before ordering
a large quantity. So I will like you to make out hay worth $1000 for a start, and let me
know how many bales
that will be. Let me know how payment can be made and like I said before my freighter will
be taking care of the hauling. As soon as you have confirmed payment, I will be
instructing my freighter to come pickup the hay from your location. I will also like to
let you know that this is an on going process where, if they like your hay, you would have
to supply them on regular basis since I am still here. So do get back to me ASAP.
Regards
Noble
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From: jane
wood < janewood_2007@yahoo.com >
Subject: Re: I AM INTERESTED IN YOUR HAY
Good Morning how are you doing i am very happy and glad to here from you i will need to know your full name and address and i will also like to know if you do accept Bank Certified cheque or Money Order if so please provide me your full name and address i will be waiting to here from you bye
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From: lobster investment < lobstarinvestment@yahoo.com >
Subject: Re: Hay for Sale
Thanks for the prompt
response, and i have hearing problem,Then im buying the Hay bales for our Animals, i
ll like to tell you that i am located in Phoenix Arizona.Also i will like to let you
know that the payment will be a certified Cashier Check so in view of this i will like you
to email me all the necessary information needed to send the Cashier Check to you.
Regarding the shipping ,i have a personal shipper agent that takes good care of my
consignments and ship them to there various destination .So my shipper agent will be at
your place to pick up the"300 Hay Bales" soon as the payment is received by you.
The Cashier Check will be in your name to make it easier for you to cash and as soon as
you receive the Cashier Check i will like you to cash them then deduct the money for the
"300 Hay Bales" and send the remaining balance to my shipper agent so he can
contact you immediately for the pick up arrangement at your place.
So here are the information
needed for the payment to be mail out asap.
(1) Full Name
(2) Mailing address, no
p.o.box please
(3) your direct telephone
number
(4) acceptance of my offer
[5}and i will give u $70 for
reserving them for me.
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Frank Bruce <frank_bruce02@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Hello ,
Thanks for the response ,am located at scottsdale, AZ and it is a pity that I wont
be able to call you cos I have hearing problem.I am glad i will be able to get them
from you, I will want to know the cost for 95 bales of the Alfalfaand i
will also want you to provide me with the information i need for my shipper to come pick
up the hay:
Your Name:
Address
Phone #
I will make arrangement for payments as soon as i know what it cost.
thanks and i await your response.
Frank
Tom Slim <> wrote:
Alfalfa is going for $12 per bale.
95 bales times $12 would be $1240.
Name: Mr. Slim
address:
Phone
When do you want the load and who will be coming to get it?
Tom
Frank Bruce <frank_bruce02@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Hello ,
Thanks for the reply and I will be looking forward to end this
transaction before the end of this weekend i.e the shipper will be coming to collect the
hay over the weekend and you will be recieving the payment on friday. I will need to
reduced the quantity I have requested for earlier cos I dont have such money at hand right
now but hopefully, I will be buying about 2000 bales before the end of this month.
I want to order for 25 bales,so kindly get back to me with the
cost and provide the information for the payment and I will go ahead and have it sent to
you tomorrow and you will get it on wednesday. Everything equal,the shipper will be at
your farm to have it on saturday. Have a nice day.
Frank
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From: Jane
Bregily < jany_0001@yahoo.com >
Subject: Re: Hay/feed needed for sheep
That sounds great and am glad to read from you, if you really want to sell out the
hay, the price is okay by me $5/bale. I will give you a cashier's check for 40bales which
cost $200
I will come for the Pick up myself on my way back from a conference. I will keep you
updated about the delivery of the payment by e-mail. You will need to provide me with the
following information, the way you want it to appear on the payment:
Name in full........................
Address in full............................
Zipand postal code........................
Confirm Phone Number......................
I look forward to doing a successful business with you and anytime you have anything else
like this to sell do let me know.
Regards,
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From: Maga Whites
< magapays@gmail.com >
Subject: Re: Interested in Buying Hay from You
Thanks for the response.
I will need 180 SMALL SQ bales, What will be total cost of 180 SMALL SQ Bales. I
will arrange pick up personally. Get to me with a quote asap.
Thanks a Bunch!
Maga Whites
Sakima Farms
Manhattan, NY
10033
212 928 1541
magapays@gmail.com
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From: JIM
BRUCE
Subject: TRUST AND HONESTY!
GoodDay Mr.Austin
Thanks for the address and how are you and family? Farming is not small bussnes to do i realy apriciate evry thing about and the farm but i pray to God to bless you with the Farming bussnes i urge you to do the good parking of the hay for me before the transporter come for the pick-up,Pleas Mr.austin i need you trust,Mr.Charla your payment will be send out first thing friday morning ok pleas try and get back to me thanks and God bless..
My Regard..
Jim.
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From: "timothy @tkenarts.com" <timokennetharts@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: quote
hello,
thanks so much for your reply i am ordering for my client i want alfalfa hay ,i
will want 1000 bale,shipping will be arranged immediately the check is cleared,i
will be sending a check for my payment.i want you to get back to me now with your
mailing address and name so i can send the check asap.
thanks so much.
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From: moreno
dins < moredins22@yahoo.com >
Subject: Re: Interested
Thanks for your reply,I will need 1400 bales,how did you accept your payment?
Be in touch
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From: "Orama Kennel" < KENNEL_SAKIMA@YAHOO.COM
>
Subject: Re: Hay Needed
Hello ,
Thank you for the response. I am so glad i will be able to get the estimated amount of hay
for $500.
Regarding the Delivery, i have contacted a Freighter and he has agreed to come pick up the
hay from your barn / farm as soon i send the money for the hay. I hope you accept
money orders as that will be my only means of payment, do provide me with the following
information i need to send money for the hay ordered, i will also have my freighter
contact you;
Name
Address
Phone #
Get to me with this information asap.
Thank you,
Carre
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(I have made "Pool Table" bold for
emphasis. This scammer forgot to change the word from the previous scam attempt)
From: "lopez johnson" <johnsonlopez@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Hay
Hello seller,
Thanks very much for the response , Am ok with the price of the Hay $9/bale i will be
needing 20ton of hay. am going to make payments which will be by certified cashier's
check. In view of this I need you to email me any information that may be required to send
the payment as I do not want to send the check to a wrong location lest they get into the
wrong hands.
Regarding the shipping, I have a company that takes care of the pickup of my consignments
for me and ship to my destination in anywhere in the U.S.A, you do not worry about
shipping, the company will send down a representative to arrange the sales documentation
and the pick up from your end for onward transfer to my location. I also want to alert you
on the fact that you will be receiving an overdraft check, which will cover the money for
the pickup (pickup and shipping to my destination) as well as the money to be paid to the
company that will take care of the pickup and the documentation with you. So please, as
soon as you receive the payment, go and cash it immediately, deduct the money that accrues
to you, and send the balance to the Head Office of the company that handles the shipment
via Western union.The check will be in your name to make it easier for you to receive
payment, please reconfirm your details one more time.I will give you the details of the
company that will be shipping the Pool Table as soon as we seal the
deal.Once the money is received by the agent , the shipping agent will contact you
immediately to arrange the documentation as well as the pick up immediately. So in view of
the above, here are some of the details I will need for final issuance of the Cashiers
check to you.
(1) Full Name.........
(2) Mailing address....
(3) your direct telephone.....
{4} accept my offer...........
Thanks
once you get back to me with all the above, the check will be issued out and it will be
sent to you .Hope to hear from you immediately.Looking forward to your swift response.
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I have emphasized words and numbers for easy comparison between the following four messages. Since the messages are the same, the sender is the same even though 3 different names and e-mail addresses are used.
From: Mark Sue < m_sue02@yahoo.com >
Subject: Re: Hay Order!
Hello ,
Thanks for the response ,am located at scottsdale, AZ and it is a pity that I wont
be able to call you cos I have hearing problem.I am glad i will be able to get them from
you, I will want to know the cost for 95 bales
of the grass Hay and i will also want you to
provide me with the information i need for my shipper to come pick up the hay:
Name
Address
Phone #
I will make arrangement for payments as soon as i know what it cost.
thanks and i await your response.
Mark
From: "bill scottman" <billscottman450@yahoo.com>
Subject: INTERESTED BUYER
Hello ,
Thanks for the response ,am located at scottsdale, AZ and it is a pity that I wont
be able to call you cos I have hearing problem.I am glad i will be able to get them from
you, I will want to know the cost for 70
bales and i will also want you to provide me with the information i
need for my shipper to come pick up the hay:
name
address
phone #
I will make arrangement for payments as soon as i know what it cost. thanks and i await
your response.
Bill
--- bill scottman wrote:
Hello,
Thanks for the response,am located at scottsdale, AZ and it is a pity that I wont be able
to call you cos I have hearing problem.I am glad i will be able to get them from you, I
will want to know the cost of 100bales of timothy and i will also want you to provide me
with the information i need for my shipper to come pick up the hay:
name
address
phone #
I will make arrangement for payments as soon as i know what it cost. thanks and i await
your response.
Bill
(The following message is listed higher on the page but I copied it here for comparison with the 3 above)
Frank Bruce <frank_bruce02@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello ,
Thanks for the response ,am located at scottsdale, AZ and it is a pity that I wont
be able to call you cos I have hearing problem.I am glad i will be able to get them
from you, I will want to know the cost for 95
bales of the Alfalfaand i will also want you to provide me with the information i need for
my shipper to come pick up the hay:
Your Name:
Address
Phone #
I will make arrangement for payments as soon as i know what it cost.
thanks and i await your response.
Frank
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From: "Jacques Jeaurond" < JACQUES_JEAUROND@YAHOO.COM
>
Subject: ORDER FOR MY HAY
Hello,
Thanks for the quick reply.
This means the total for my ordered Bales will be $2100, Thats fine. I will want you to
provide me with the following detailed information I will need to send Certified
Funds for the Hay Ordered, I will send a Check to you for the Hay i am ordering, I
will want a Physical address where you can recieve the payment, also provide me with
the Address where My Hauler will come for the Pick up of the Hay after arrangements
has been made for the Pick up of my Hay.
Below are the Details i will need to send you Money:
Name -
Address -
Phone # -
I really appreciate your assistance towards meeting my Hay requirements.
Thanks a Bunch,
Jacques Jeaurond
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From: "Jacques Jeaurond" <jacques_jeaurond@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: HAY FOR SALE
Thank you for getting backing to me with a prompt response. I will want to know the
cost of 300 bales without you including the cost of transportation, I will make
arrangement with my Hauler who will come pick up the Hay from you and have it transported
over here. Do get back to me with the total cost for 300 bales ASAP. I will expect a
fast response from you as well.
Thanks a bunch,
Jacques Jeaurond
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Subject: Re: HAY FOR SALE
Thanks for your reply. i want to be rest assured that am dealing with the right owner of
the Hay.And more also like to know if you are willing to give me the last price it going
for as i am interested in purchasing 100 bales and pls let me know the total amount of the
100 bales. i would have love to come over to your place and see it but am out of the state
for a special duty at my work.. Concernng the shippment i have a Hauler that will come
over for the pick up so dont bother your self over that.
Thanks
Gbenro
God Bless.
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