Hay Scams
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You have hay for sale and you have just received an e-mail from someone who wants to buy your hay. "Something" seems wrong. Is this the start of a "Hay Scam"?
Hay Scams
www.hay-scams.com
You have hay for sale and you have just received an e-mail from someone who wants to buy your hay. "Something" seems wrong. Is this the start of a "Hay Scam"?
We can help you!
What is this "Hay Scam" and who are the scammers?
Simple answer, someone sends you a counterfeit check to cover the cost of the hay plus 'trucking' and asks you to Wire money back to the 'trucker' so he can come and get the hay. No one comes for the hay, the check bounces a month later and you have lost the money you wired out. Most of the scammers are in Nigeria.
More information about the counterfeit check scams can be found here: http://www.cashierscheckscam.com/
Warning!!! One scammer is now wanting to make a "Bank Transfer" to pay for your hay and asks for your bank account numbers. (see one here) (and a better one here) If you give this to them, they can wipe out your account in a heart-beat.
Warning!!! You can no longer count on the scam message to be written in broken English. Several scammers have gotten help and are now quite convincing. (see this example)
Please continue reading or jump to these selections.
| Home page | Submit a hay-scam e-mail |
| Recent and Current hay scam message and List of scammer's e-mail addresses | |
| "Common Traits" and "Red flags" | Typical contact 'messages' |
| Images of Counterfeit funds (dial-up) | Images of Counterfeit funds (high speed) |
| Fight back! | Fun with Scammers |
How can I know if the purchaser is real or a scammer?
Here are the things to look out for, over the next 3 messages from the scammer:
Great big "RED FLAGS":
The First clue that it is a scam is if they ask:
How much hay can I (the scammer) get for X dollars?If their messages start ending up in the "Spam" file!
Any reference to Patrick Atim Etim Inyang, Atim Etim Patrick Inyang, Patrick Inyang Etim, Inyang Etim Patrick, Etim Inyang Patrick, Atim P.I. Etim, Mr. I. E. Patrick, A. P .I Etim, or further combinations of those initials ...... it's a hay purchaser scam.
and the Biggest proof that this is a scam is:
You are to Wire money to someone you do not know, after cashing the purchaser's check.Common traits of the scam:
Messages that 'sound strange' or from apparent foreign language speaking individuals
MESSAGE IS WRITTEN IN CAPITAL LETTERSClick here for lots more "Common Traits"
What are other clues that this is a scam? I don't want to lose a hay sale by mistake.
They want to buy your hay? Ask the person to send you a deposite of about $25 to $50 via Paypal. Valid purchasers will do it. Scammer..... not likely!
Try Goggling the scammer's name and e-addy to see if someone else has posted something about them. You can also try Goggling a distinctive phrase to see if it comes up somewhere else. If the scammer give you a physical address, try Google Earth and see if you can zoom down to look and see what the neighborhood looks like.
You can get a sense of what the scammers sound like by reading through these scammer messages, some use broken English but most are now using words that sound very legitimate. Check the most recent messages to see if you have one of them also.
Typical "contact" messages list |
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| First contact | 2nd and/or 3 ed | Money sent | Hauler contact |
| Warnings | Odd-balls and misc. | Aftermath | |
Is this a counterfeiting ring?
I feel the counterfeits most likely come from one or two individuals here in the US. with a high quality ink jet printer using common software (like Quicken Books) and printing on genuine blank check paper obtained from a place like this: www.micrfonts.com/micr.htm They are partnered with the scammers outside of the US who do the e-mailing.Am I in trouble if I reply back to their messages?
No. In fact you can have some fun with them. The only time you are in trouble is if you wire money back to them. You need to realize that the check or money order that they send to you is counterfeit and it WILL bounce. The trap is started when they send the bogus funds to you and the trap is cocked when you deposit the counterfeit funds. The trap snaps painfully on you when you wire the 'hauling fees' back to them. You can not recover the money that you wire out! NEVER! They are in Nigeria and outside the reach of our laws. They don't want your hay, they want the "hauler's fee".
What about the scammer's e-mail address?
You can check the list of e-mail names and addresses below. It is obviously not a complete list but may be some help.
Scammers create and change their e-mail address and name about as often as most of us change our underwear so their e-mail address is only a snapshot of what has happened in the past. Occasionally a scammers will bring up old addresses and run them again, so following is a list of some of those used by the scammers including the most recent at the top.. Be sure to check the underlying actual address <someone@some.com> and not just the <Name> in the messages you get from the scammer.
How else can you help me determine if this is a scam?
(Click here for information -- including how to submit a scammer's message)
| TAG "Patrick" Patrick Inyang and Carre |
I.P #s used by the scam messages |
Return addresses on UPS delivery envelopes |
Examples of recent hay-scam messages |
| Pseudo name | E-mail address | Date | Him | Him-You | Misc |
| same color-same scammer | |||||
| Danna Carter" TAG "Patrick" |
floanning@yahoo.com TAG "Patrick" | '08 May 12 | Example-39 | FLoanning Company Carter, Danna 490 Audubon Ave, Manhattan, NY 10033 212-928-1273 |
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| Recent Puppy ads and "Help wanted" ads from the Internet | |||||
| Collins Collins | collinscollins99@yahoo.com | '08 May 1 | Example-38 | Nigeria [82.128.23.172] by web45508.mail.sp1.yahoo |
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| I saw your advert placement of your hay for sale. Please let me know the last asking price of the hay per | |||||
| Ray Melbon d.melbonsfarm@yahoo.com |
'08 May 11 | Example-37 | Nigeria TAG "Patrick" |
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| Danna Carter" <floanning@gmail.com> | We write to inquire about your Hay
ad. Do you still have them for sale? We buy our Hay regularly, though we lost our customer who we purchase hay from, he died in an auto last month and we need hay now. |
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| adam cole | < coal.flame@yahoo.com
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'08 May 1 | Example-36 | IP 195.225.62.182 Nigeria wire money to: DANIEL SMITH 2134 AMERICAN RIVER DRIVE ,SACRAMENTO, CA, 95825 |
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| I am so sorry for the error in the last check sent so we have another payment mailed out to you..but i will like you to know that we were having problems with the company's account and | |||||
| liliancole@luckymail.com TAG "Patrick" |
'08 Apr. 29 | Example-30 | IP 82.128.23.13 Nigeria TAG "Patrick" |
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| Hello, I got an update from my bank confirming deduction of funds. I want to confirm if the check has cleared, so as to confirm right details from my bank, otherwise i still wait. | |||||
| liliancole@luckymail.com | Also scamming Craig's List. Warning is here: minneapolis.craigslist.org/car/664317961.html | ||||
| Collins Raph This account has been disabled by Yahoo. Apr. 30' 08 |
'08 Apr. 29 | Example-35 | IP 195.225.62.182 Ariave
Satcom LTD Nigeria web45810.Yahoo Similar: Example-33, -32, |
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| I saw your advert placement of your hay for sale. Please let me know the | |||||
| Lilian & Cole "Hauler" is TAG "Patrick" |
liliancole@luckymail.com |
'08 Apr. 23 | Example-30 Counterfeit Check image also. |
IP # 71.119.25.189 which is Verizon
Internet Services Inc. USA. IP#24.12.66.96 Comcast Cable Communications Inc. Mt Laurel, NJ Miami, Fl, 33196 |
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| Greetings to you. I am Mrs Danna, I write to inform you about picking up Lilian & Cole's Hay as ordered from your Farm, They have provide me with detailed information as regarding the Quantity of Hay to pick up. |
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| adam cole | '08 Apr. 22 | Example-34 | From I.P.# 195.225.62.182 VSat (Israel) for Nigeria Wire money to: PATRICIA MCNEESE WILMINGTON, DELAWARE, 19805 |
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| Like i have writen in my earlier email am so sorry for the delay in the payment delivery we were having problems with the company account | |||||
| Kingsley Mike | '08 Apr. 20 | Example-33 | From I.P.# 41.211.239.9 Nigeria | ||
| I saw your advert placement of your hay for sale. Please let me know the | |||||
| Bridget Collins | lonelycaringheart2000@yahoo.com | Apr. 18 '08 | Example-32 | From I.P.# 41.211.239.9 Nigeria | |
| I saw your advert placement of your hay for sale. Please let me know the | |||||
| Brown Bill TAG "Patrick" |
< mr_bill11@yahoo.com
> banksrite1@yahoo.com |
April 13, '08 | Example-31 | From I.P.# 82.128.37.159
Nigeria TAG "Patrick" |
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| I CAME ACROSS YOUR ADVERT ON THESE WEBSITE. I AM INTERESTED IN BUYING 200 BALES OF YOUR AVAILABLE HAY | |||||
| Lilian & Cole TAG "Patrick" |
liliancole@luckymail.com | Aprin 10, '08 | Example-30 | I.P.# 82.128.5.5
= Nigeria |
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| Do you still have Hay? My Husband and I are interested in buying Hay. What ... | |||||
| Jerry Banks TAG "Patrick" |
banksrite1@yahoo.com | April 9, '08 | Example-k | I.P.# 82.128.23.234 = Nigeria TAG "Patrick" |
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| HELLO,I AM INTERESTED IN BUYING 250 BALES OF YOUR AVAILABLE HAY | |||||
| Bill
Scottman billscottman450@aim.com
Tag "Bill" Pickup guy- onpoint005@hotmail.com Same scammer that last year used: billscottman450@yahoo.com onpoint_hay777@yahoo.com |
April 3, '08 | Scamming Craig's list | |||
| Heather Hall
Word useage indicates that this is a "Cole" and "Cole" may be "Patrick" |
heathall003@yahoo.com | '08 Mar. 31 | Example-29 | Message comes from Israel Satellite IP Number | |
| HELLO,I AM INTERESTED IN BUYING 250 BALES OF YOUR AVAILABLE HAY. | |||||
| adam cole greg cook |
coal.flame@yahoo.com gregcooking@yahoo.com is the 'hauler' March 31, '08 |
'08 Mar. 26 apr. 1, '08 Apr. 2, '08 |
 Offered
him bales of Canada Thistle |
Example-27 |
Comes from Israel Satellite
ISP Hauler phone = 202-360-4556 Hauler = Nigeria ISP Wire money to: THELMA PICARD 4451 JERNIGAN ROAD, LOT 2 PACE 32571 FLORIDA |
| Hello I was surfing through the internet when i came across your advert about your Hay would you kindly get back to me if the Hay is still available for sale and then a price quotation per bale and then the listing of your available hays for sale. | |||||
| Mrs Susan Barrier
Tag "Susan" |
barr_sus_an02@yahoo.com | Mar. 25, '08 | Example-26 | Nigeria | |
| My name is Mrs Susan Barrier, Live in Alabama. My supplier just left for family problem So I found your above advert placed for your Hay/feed | |||||
| Jane Bregily | < jany_0001@yahoo.com > | ||||
| My name is Mrs Jane Bregily from Michigan,I found your above advert placed for your hay and feed, | |||||
| Susan Bryant | suss_sy5@hotmail.com Reply to< jany_0001@yahoo.com > |
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| My name is Susan from Michigan,I found your above advert placed for your hay. | |||||
| Kenneth Stanley most likely Tag is "Bill" billscottman450@aim.com (note aim.com above) |
kennethstanley00@aim.com | '08-Mar-19 | Example-24 | IP 82.128.4.134 Origin = Nigeria |
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| Hello, I am interested in buying the Hay
you have for sale, I will like to know if you still have for sale. If you do, I need Horse hay |
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| Linda Webb Tag "Bill" | webbl10@yahoo.com | 08-Mar-13 | Example-25 | Nigeria | |
| Williams Scott Tag "Bill" | williams.scott777@yahoo.comOffered him
a horse for $50,000. |
Example-22 |
Comes from Nigeria Wire money to: Name: Cheryl Barnes Address: 107 Fountain Ave City: Augusta, State: Ga Zip Code: 30916 Tel: 515-204-4529 Fax: 563-405-7653 |
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| My name is Williams Scott. An International
Importer and Exporter which I am into buying and selling. One of my
customer is interested in buying your product. |
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| Williams Scott | williams.scott777@yahoo.com | Example-21 |
IP. #41.219.245.4 Nigeria |
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| My name is Williams Scott. An International Importer and Exporter which I am into buying and selling. | |||||
| Gary Ritz Mr Atim I. Patrick TAG "Patrick" |
garyritz@luckymail.com hauler2008@consultant.com |
Example-20 | Nigeria TAG "Patrick" | ||
| Hello. I am interested in buying the hay
you have posted for sale, do you still have them for sale. |
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| SWANSEA COLE TAG "Patrick" | fuade@yahoo.com has previously used fuade3@yahoo.com |
Example-19 | Nigeria TAG "Patrick" REPLY ME - |
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| I AM INTERESTED IN BUYING 250 BALES OF YOUR AVAILABLE HAY. | |||||
| Gary Ritz TAG "Patrick" | garyritz007@aol.com | Example-18 | Nigeria TAG "Patrick" | ||
| Good Afternoon, I will like to know if you still have the Hay you posted for sale. | |||||
| "Hauler" is Mike Scheeder TAG "Patrick" | mschee77@yahoo.com | and signed Mr. I. E. Patrick TAG "Patrick" |
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| Matt Ewart TAG "Patrick" | mattewart@switched.com mattewart@luckymail.com |
Example-17 | TAG
"Patrick" Etim A. I. P. Address - 156 Baltimore Ave City - Elmont Zip Code - 11003 |
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| I was checking over the internet and came
across the Hay you have for sale. I inquire to know if the Hay is still available and if it is available, |
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| Shipper for Matt Ewart is
Mike Scheeder TAG "Patrick" |
mschee77@yahoo.com | Example #17 | Nigeria TAG
"Patrick" wire money to Etim A. I. P |
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| JIM BRUCE | jimbruce94@yahoo.co.uk airlineship.ltd@hotmail.com |
Example-16 | IP is Florida then Lebanon Wants funds wired to London |
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| Shipper = williams bracford | I AM INTRESTED IN PURCHASING YOUR
HAY BEEN I NEED FOR MY HORSE AND I WILL LIKE TO KNOW THE TYPE OF HAY YOU HAVE IF IS ALFALFA OR TIFFANY |
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| Bernard Buxton Tag "Bill" | beebee506@hotmail.com | Example-15 | First message is IP #82.128.5.107 second message is 216.93.169.31 hotmail USA |
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| Hay is needed urgently. Get back to me with
the price per bale and also the= quantity available. |
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| Maga Whites TAG "Patrick" | magapays@gmail.com | Example-14 | Sakima Farms 212 928 1541 TAG "Patrick" |
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| I saw you hay ad for sale, I will want to know amongst the listed hay, which do you have available now as i am very interested in making an order from you Barn. | |||||
| "Teresa Ervc" TAG "Patrick" | laxix007@gmail.com | Example-13 | TAG "Patrick" | ||
| We are interested in the Hay you have for sale, We will like to know if you still have available the following types of hay for amongst the listed is what we want: | |||||
| laxix laxix TAG "Patrick" | laxix007@yahoo.com jacques_jeaurond@yahoo.com |
Example-12 | TAG "Patrick" | ||
| I am interested in the type of Hay you have for sale, I will want to know what kind of Hay you have available as at of now and where you are located for me to be | |||||
| "Matt billy" < TAG "Patrick" | MATT87BILLY@YAHOO.COM globalcarrier@deliveryman.com |
Example-11 | IP # 82.128.13.157 Nigeria TAG "Patrick" |
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| "Frank Bruce" Tag "Bill" | frank_bruce02@yahoo.com | Example-10 | |||
| I am interested in the hay you have for sale. Kindly get back to me if available. Thanks, Frank | |||||
| the "hauler" is | hunterdhaylifter@gmail.com | ||||
| "timothy
@tkenarts.com" TAG "Patrick" |
timokennetharts@yahoo.co.uk> | Example-9 | IP # 82.128.13.170 Multi-Links Telecommunications Limited, Lagos Nigeria TAG "Patrick" | ||
| I want to buy hay from you. I want you to send me the quantity of bales you have in stock and the corresponding unit price | |||||
| "Miniature Bull Terrier Puppies" TAG "Patrick" | mbtpuppies4sale@yahoo.com | Example-8 | TAG "Patrick" | ||
| Mike Peters TAG "Patrick" | global.freighter@yahoo.com | ||||
| "Miniature Bull Terrier Puppies" TAG "Patrick" | <mbtpuppies4sale@yahoo.com> | Example-7 |
From IP 82.128.3.111 C & O Stables, Elmont, NY, 11033 TAG "Patrick" |
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| candostables@yahoo.com | |||||
| Mike Peters "Miniature Bull Terrier Puppies" TAG "Patrick" |
<mbtpuppies4sale@yahoo.com> global.freighter@yahoo.com |
Example-6 | From IP 82.128.21.186 TAG "Patrick" Atim Etim Patrick Inyang, Miami, FL, 33196 |
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| Orama Kennel TAG "Patrick" | kennel_sakima@yahoo.com | Example-5 | Atim Ita Sakima Kennel PATRICK ETIM INYANG Carre Kenneth Carre Bullies TAG "Patrick" |
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| Global Freighter TAG "Patrick" | global.freighter@yahoo.com | ||||
| Donna Kin |
donna_kin007@rediffmail.com | Example-4 | Antique (broken) tractor gear) | ||
| Jacques Jeaurond PATRICK HAULS PATRICK ETIM INYANG TAG "Patrick" |
laxix007@yahoo.com jacques_jeaurond@yahoo.com PATRICKHAULS@YAHOO.COM |
Example-3 | TAG "Patrick" | ||
| James Holly Tag "Bill" | lobstarinvestment@yahoo.com | '07 Nov. 23 | Example-28 | ||
| Bill Moore TAG "Patrick" | billmoore79@yahoo.com | Example-23 | NAME:ATIM ETIM ADDRESS:49 ST NICHOLAS TERRACE APT 2 CITY:MANHATTAN STATE:NEW YORK ZIPCODE:10033-2710 TAG "Patrick" |
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| ATIM ETIM TAG "Patrick" | albertoloping@yahoo.com is the Hauler (28 Aug 2007) | ||||
| Bergers, Elane. WEBERT MIKE TAG "Patrick" |
elane_bergers@yahoo.com WEBERTMIKE@YAHOO.COM |
Example | TAG "Patrick" | ||
| WEBERT MICHEAL Erwin Wilson TAG "Patrick" Jacques Jeaurond |
webertmike@yahoo.com wilson_erwin@yahoo.com jacques_jeaurond@yahoo.com |
TAG "Patrick" | |||
| laxix laxix PATRICK HAULS TAG "Patrick" |
laxix007@yahoo.com patrickhauls@yahoo.com |
PATRICK ETIM INYANG TAG "Patrick" |
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| Frank Bruce Tag "Bill" | frank_bruce02@yahoo.com morisabenjamin@yahoo.com egun007@yahoo.com |
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| morisa benjamin gbenro olu |
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| Anthony Barris | anthony_mukhela@yahoo.com | April 3, '08 "Bill
scottman" is now using onpoint005@hotmail.com as a "hauler" on Craig's list. |
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| bill scottman Mark Sue Tag "Bill" |
billscottman450@yahoo.com onpoint_hay777@yahoo.com m_sue02@yahoo.com |
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These are names from www.haybarn.com
(There are a lot of duplicates as we are combining lists)
| Aaliyah Mayor Suffolk, | allyah.maye@gmail.com | England Phone # +447031895785 |
| Aaliyah Werk Suffolk, | alliyahevang@hotmail.com | England Phone # +44 703 189 5785 |
| Atim E. P Inyang | 27 Nicholas Terrace Dr Manhattan, NY 10033 Miami, FL 33196 |
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| Bernard Buxton | beebee506@hotmail.com | |
| Bill Moore | billmoore79@yahoo.com | |
| Carre | hay hauler | |
| Donald Benny | donnybenny@aol.com | |
| Donni Williams | 206-350-2655 | |
| Etim A. I. P. | mschee77@yahoo.com | hay hauler, 'Mr. Etim' |
| Frank Bruce | frank_bruce02@yahoo.com | |
| Gary Ritz | garyritz007@aol.com | Sansi Farms |
| Gbenro Olu | egun007@yahoo.com | |
| Global Carrier | globalcarrier@deliveryman.com | hay hauler |
| Global Collect BV | Ameritech 225 West Randolph, Chicago, IL | |
| Global Freighter | global.freighter@yahoo.com | hay hauler |
| Gregg Larson | gregglarson1@yahoo.com | |
| Grills Investments j | nmj87@aol.com | Bronx, NY |
| Jacques Jeaurond | jacques_jeaurond@yahoo.com | |
| Jim Kovac | jim.kovac@gmail.com | |
| Johnson Nipples | jnipples4eva@yahoo.com | |
| Laxix Laxix | laxix007@yahoo.com | |
| Laxix Osehon | laxix007@yahoo.com | 6 115 N.Howard, Miami Fl, 3319 |
| Leo Marry | leo.mary@gmail.com | |
| Maga Whites | magapays@gmail.com | Sakima Farms, Manhattan, NY 212 928 1541 |
| Mark Audel | markaudel@allsportsrock.com | |
| Mark George | markfabrics2@yahoo.com | |
| Mark Peterson | mark_powell4uall@yahoo.com | |
| Mark Powell | mark_powell4uall@yahoo.com | |
| Mary Schroeder | mmm.sch@gmail.com | |
| Matt Billy | matt87billy@yahoo.com | Matt Company, Manhattan, NY 49 St. Nicholas Terr, Apt. 2, NY, NY 2563 Aududon Avenue, Suite 5, Manhattan New York |
| Matt Ewart | mattewart@switched.com | |
| Montero Farms | mattewart@luckymail.com | |
| Michael Jones | jnmj87@aol.com | Grills Investments, Bronx, NY |
| Mike Budu | mikibudu@yahoo.com | |
| Mike Peters | ||
| Mike Scheeder | bizrate@luckymail.com mschee77@yahoo.com | |
| Mini Bull Terriers | mbtpuppies4sale@yahoo.com | |
| Montero Money | montero_money@yahoo.com money@yahoo.com |
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| Moreno Dins | moredins22@yahoo.com | |
| Morisa Benjamin | morisabenjamin@yahoo.com | |
| Mr. Etim | mschee77@yahoo.com | hay hauler, aka Mr. Etim or Mike Scheeder |
Oj Jhoihj |
swmore53@yahoo.co.uk | |
| Orama Kennel | kennel_sakima@yahoo.com | |
| Patrick Etim Inyand | Manhattan New York, 10033 | |
| Patrick Hauls | patrickhauls@yahoo.com | hay hauler |
| Patrick Inyang | hay hauler | |
| Randy Johnson | randy_johnson234@yahoo.com | Scottsdale, AZ |
| Ray Hurley r | ayyhurley@gmail.com rayyhurleyy@yahoo.com | |
| Raymon Kelly | raykelly001@yahoo.com | |
| Shaw Jones | shawones@yahoo.com | |
| Sherry King | sherrycalm@mailbolt.com | Rev. Mrs. Sherry C. King |
| Smith | montero_money@yahoo.com | alt. name for Montero Money |
| Stephen Arland | star87@luckymail.com | |
| swansea Cole | fuade3@yahoo.com | |
| Teresa Ervc | laxix007@gmail.com | |
| Timothy | timokennetharts@yahoo.co.uk | |
| Tim Mathew | timmathew1@yahoo.com | |
| Tom Paker | tp2_paker08092@hotmail.com | |
| Webert Michael | webertmike@yahoo.com | |
These names and addresses were collected by searching the web for relevant key words
| Laxix Osehon | Laxix Osehon Patrick Inyan Mr. Carre |
laxix PATRICK INYANG Laxix Osehon |
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| Linda Smith PATRICK INYANG, Address:-# 20 OREMEJI STREET PAPA AJAO, MUSHIN LAGOS [this is Nigeria] West Africa |
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| Jacques Jeaurond PATRICK ETIM INYANG touch.oliver_smith20@yahoo.com PATRICK ETIM INYANG, MANHATTAN, NY 10033, US rollsmith007@unionplus.net PATRICK ETIM INYANG, MANHATTAN, NY 10033, US xrole0102@yahoo.com PATRICK ETIM INYANG, MANHATTAN, NY 10033, USrollsmith007@yahoo.com PATRICK ETIM INYANG, MANHATTAN, NY 10033, US |
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| contactcarre@yahoo.com contactmmayer@yahoo.com.au |
lexis lexis laxix007@yahoo.com WEBERT MIKE WEBERTMIKE@YAHOO.COM |
Willess Rydnak patrick inyang patrickhauls@yahoo.com |
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| Home page | Submit a hay-scam e-mail |
| Recent and Current hay scam message and List of scammer's e-mail addresses | |
| "Common Traits" and "Red flags" | Typical contact 'messages' |
| Images of Counterfeit funds (dial-up) | Images of Counterfeit funds (high speed) |
| Fight back! | Fun with Scammers |
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